What are the different ways to think about time and how can we represent time in an analog way to represent time?
We often think of space-time as being three dimensions and one of time. That is time progresses forward in time never going back. There is the past that can not be changed and the future which we currently think of as not defined. Non-deterministic and not set in stone. Or is it?
String...
A string can be stretched out to represent time as we normally see it in our western culture. We can put beads on the string to represent events. We can relax the string to loosen time and tighten it to represent tight times. The string can be twisted into loops and cross overs to represent times in which we overlap or repeat. The points where the strings overlap and touch can be jump points where we feel like we are repeating times over and over.
Möbius strip
The Möbius strip is a one sided strip that has one edge and one side but yet has two sides. If you take a strip of paper and twist one end 180 degrees and connect it to the other end you have a Möbius strip. One can run their finger on the one side continuously. The same on the edge. This can represent time in that it is cyclical and patterns repeat over and over. That time runs into itself over and over. When running your finger along the strip you can find yourself twisted or your perception altered as a different perspective. The arrows on the strip are pointing in the same direction representing parallel time lines. Your perspective changed after going around once and then again to reorient yourself.
Origami
Origami and time have many parallels. Origami represents taking a flat sheet of paper and folding in ways that can represent how time can fold on itself and produce patterns that fold over or repeat on itself. A more complex structure can be created from the folding of the paper which can translate to time being folded or molded in to more complex structures such as quick time or slow time and our dreams pull us into alternate time lines that can seem very real.
Day dreaming can pull us into alternate time lines that can be viewed as folded time lines on to our daily time lines.
Remote Viewing
Remote viewers can view past, present and future time lines. There is no limit to what they can view. They project their senses which is their perceptions on to alternate time lines. Some times they get “a hit” some times they don’t. Are the misses an alternate time line? A folded timeline like a fold in origami time. Or an alternate time line that is very close to our time line.
There is another article to write about Remote Viewing, time lines, and alternate perspectives on time.
Sleep and Dreams
Our whole perception of time can be thrown way off when we sleep. Sleep alters our perception of time in that we loose track of time. What may seem like a few minutes could be hours and even days. When put under general anesthesia we loose that time. It’s like we jump ahead in time. Time is folded on itself.
Dreams give a whole new timeline that is presented to ourselves. Dreams can be abstract and vague and sometimes very real to the point that we can’t tell the difference between the dream and waking reality. Time is folded or like a Möbius strip where time repeats or gets twisted into a new timeline. We jump back to our waking timeline to resume. Dream timelines can seem to be twisted onto themselves like origami.
Future Defined?
We may not want to face it but the future may already be defined and deterministic or at least defined. Are we just choosing our timelines together? Are there multiple timelines ahead of us where we are just going through the motions and collectively steering the timeline together?
I have to think or at least entertain the idea that timelines are written already but choosing a particular timeline is happening on a moment by moment basis. Or is there a correlation of events collapsing into a timeline just beyond the present moment. I call this the Future Event Assembly Timeline where the events are there but not collapsed into a timeline like Lego sub-assemblies events being written into the timeline.
Or is there multiple timelines that exist that are laid out in the future timelines but we collectively are choosing the timeline… Multiple Future Timelines Selection.
If the future and the past exist we just are going through the motions and time is not consistent everywhere then the idea of an origami or Möbius strip are easier to fit into the perception of time. Linear time does not mold well with the origami or Möbius strip idea in my opinion.
So how does Machine Learning look at time?
ChatGPT:
Prompt: How is time and origami related? Can time be thought of as origami folded on itself?
That’s a fascinating way to think about time! There are actually some deep connections between time and origami, both metaphorically and in theoretical physics.
Time as a Folded Structure
If we imagine time as a linear progression, much like a flat sheet of paper, then folding it (like in origami) could represent different ways time might interact with itself—perhaps creating shortcuts (wormholes), loops (time travel paradoxes), or multiple overlapping realities (multiverse theory).
Origami and Spacetime Geometry
In general relativity, spacetime isn't flat but curved by mass and energy. Some physicists, like Roger Penrose, have explored "twistor theory," which describes spacetime in a way that can be visualized as twisting and folding structures—much like origami.
Quantum Mechanics and Superposition
In quantum physics, particles exist in multiple states until observed. If we think of time as a folded origami structure, different possible timelines could be "creases" in the paper, all existing at once until they unfold into a single reality.
Parallel Timelines as Folded Paper
If time is not strictly linear but can bend, fold, or crumple, then moments in time might be much closer than they seem—like two distant points on a paper suddenly adjacent after a fold. This could provide a conceptual way to think about time travel or alternate realities.
So in a way, time can be thought of as an origami structure—intricately folded, interconnected, and potentially nonlinear. What’s your perspective on this?
Prompt: How is time and origami related? Can time be thought of as origami folded on itself?
Time and origami share intriguing conceptual connections, particularly in the realm of theoretical physics and artistic interpretation. The relationship between time and origami can be explored through several perspectives:
The universe as a folded structure: Some scientific theories propose that the structure of the universe, including dark matter, can be conceptualized as a folded sheet, similar to origami[2]. This folded geometry could potentially explain the expansion and contraction of the universe over time.
Time as a dimension in folded space: In the artistic interpretation of "The Folded Geometry of the Universe," time is described as a dimension that unfolds and folds, with expansion representing time flowing forward and contraction representing time flowing backward[2]. Each fold in this concept represents a new dimensional space-time entity.
Origami as a metaphor for time's complexity: The intricate folds in origami can serve as a metaphor for the complex nature of time, with each fold representing a moment or event in the continuum of time[2].
Time visualization in origami-inspired designs: Some conceptual designs, like the origami-inspired e-paper watch, use folded paper strips to represent the passage of time visually[4]. This demonstrates how origami principles can be applied to time-telling devices.
Origami in scientific modeling: Physicists and mathematicians use origami principles to model complex systems, including those involving time-dependent processes[5]. These models can help in understanding intricate relationships in space and time.
While the idea of time being "folded on itself like origami" is more of a metaphorical concept than a scientifically proven fact, it does provide an interesting framework for contemplating the nature of time and the universe. This perspective aligns with some theoretical physics concepts, such as the idea of multiple dimensions and the potential for time to have a more complex structure than our linear perception suggests[2].
It's important to note that these ideas are largely theoretical and artistic interpretations rather than established scientific facts. They serve as thought-provoking concepts that bridge art, philosophy, and theoretical physics, encouraging us to think about time and the universe in novel ways.
Citations:
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/datealive/comments/v0pc8b/the_time_travel_arc_ignored_origamis_actions_in/
[2] https://www.matthewgardiner.net/art/The_Folded_Geometry_of_the_Universe
[3] https://www.origamispirit.com/2020/06/origami-or-the-art-of-creating-meaningful-connections-2/
[4] https://blog.tokyoflash.com/2012/06/14/origami-time-in-e-paper-2/
[5] https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2009/06/03/between-the-folds-the-science-and-art-of-origami?language_content_entity=und
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[7] https://steamcommunity.com/app/423120/discussions/0/412448158166027906/
[8] https://impakter.com/art-origami-interview-robert-j-lang/
Answer from Perplexity: pplx.ai/share
Prompt: How is time and the Möbius strip related? How can time be viewed as a Möbius strip?
Time and the Möbius strip share intriguing conceptual similarities, especially when considering non-linear time, paradoxes, and cyclical or looping structures.
Time as a Non-Linear, One-Sided Path
A Möbius strip has only **one continuous surface**, even though it appears to have two. If time were like a Möbius strip, then traveling forward might eventually bring you back to where you started—but **from a seemingly reversed or altered perspective**. This could resemble how past and future are interconnected in ways we don’t fully understand.
Eternal Recurrence and Cyclical Time
The Möbius strip can symbolize **cyclical time**, where events repeat but with subtle differences. This aligns with concepts in philosophy (like Nietzsche’s "eternal recurrence") and physics (such as the idea of a cyclic universe where time resets after each Big Bang).
Time Travel and Paradoxes
A time traveler moving along a Möbius-strip-like timeline might return to their origin in a mirrored state, potentially explaining paradoxes where cause and effect blur. It suggests that forward motion in time could unexpectedly loop back into the past or alter reality in strange ways.
Duality of Past and Future
Since the Möbius strip has only one side, what seems like the "past" may also be the "future," depending on where you stand. This could suggest a **unified time model** where past and future are not distinct, but rather two perspectives of the same underlying structure.
The Arrow of Time and Reversibility
Time is often thought to have an "arrow" due to entropy (things move from order to disorder). But if time were like a Möbius strip, it might allow for moments where the arrow **reverses**, creating points where past and future mix or loop into each other.
Final Thought
If time is a Möbius strip, then what we perceive as linear, forward-moving time might actually be a **twisting, looping, and interconnected** structure—suggesting time is much stranger than we think.
Do you see time as something more cyclical, or do you lean towards a more conventional linear view?
Source: ChatGPT
Take Away…
It is important to be aware of other perspectives of how time is viewed and perceived by others. Other perspectives can be found here on Earth and our language has a large influence on our perceptions of time. While there are many cultures that view time as non-linear and cyclical.
Science it taking alternate perspectives on time to answer some problems with physics and the fundamental problems to solve.
There are others NHI that view time in a very different way. Just to briefly touch on that there have been experiments done with atomic clocks to find that time progresses in different rates just by changing the heights. A higher height has a slow progression rate. Time is subject to our perceptions and our activities.
Notice how time flies when we are having fun but slows down during duties or monotonousness activities.
Is time something constant even though we need it to be for our daily lives to function?
The more I discover and research about science, energy, dreams, mental and emotional energies, space and time I see that I can no longer afford to hold the idea of linear time. I must adopt the non-linear time perspective to allow for the understanding of space, time, and the universe.
How does our sleep and dream cycles alter our perceptions of time?
How do you view time? Sound off! It’s about time…